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Tuesday, September 07, 2004

Notes & Domino == Perfect blogging tool?

It occurs to me the Notes & Domino has almost the perfect architecture for a blogging CMS. The object based NSF infrastructure is a perfect fit for nearly everything I want a blog to do. It hits the blogging sweet spot, whereas a relational DB has far too much power and flexibility and file based system has too little flexibility and power for blogging.

The only problem is that it requires both a proprietary designer client and server to extract that power, which is too much for most people. If the designer client were web based then it would need just the server portion, that would be a big win. Or to flip it around it could be just a designer client that publishes via FTP to a generic web server (Internotes anyone?), of course then you can't have discussions and other interactive features built on Domino that way.

One of the things I wanted to do while at Iris was build a NSF style web server that used a web based designer client. This was something Thomas Gumz and I were hashing out together, I was going to concentrate on the backend and he'd do the web client side of things. We never got as far as actual project approval and funding, I left before that was possible.

It was supposed to be a simplified web server development environment that gave most of the power and particularly the simplicity of a Notes V3 development environment, but designed from the ground up for the web so that secretaries and office managers could build simple applications, just like they could in Notes V3. I'm not a visionary so I can't say if this would have been a hit, but right now I'm thinking that such a tool would be useful to me.


Anonymous said...

Are you high?


1:58 AMlink  
Anonymous said...

That is really ancient information on that web page.

Somewhat more relevant might be..


8:59 AMlink  
Damien said...

All of that "Interface Hall of Shame" information refers to versions of Lotus Notes from 1997 and earlier. Some of those criticisms are right on, some of them refer to custom applications built by someone else, some are completely unfair (i.e. "This is not the login window for a weapons targeting system; it is an e-mail application", thats the sort of thinking caused countless Outlook trojans and worms) but all of them are completely outdated.

I still think Notes rocks.

9:46 AMlink  
Anonymous said...

Well, at least you have a cute baby.

11:55 PMlink  
Anonymous said...

There are a number of different blogging templates available for Domino, the two most popular being BlogSphere and DominoBlog, each one having a different take on how the site actually gets published to the web ( one used views and forms the other uses agents ).

A web based designer client, while it sounds interesting, would probably be a waste of time as developers would always have good powerful machines with the full designer client installed. From a blogging perspective it would be nice to see the blogging templates with better web side admin features.

6:07 AMlink  
Stan Rogers said...

It seems to me that a lightweight "web designer" could be a relative piece of cake as an add-on NSF these days, whether it's done through the new LS classes, through the CAPI or -- and here's where it gets interesting -- via DXL. Gonna have to mull that over with the other OpenNTF.org folks. After all, we're not talking about replacing the "real" Designer client for the production of hard-charging, balls-to-the-wall, mainframe-connected, data-spittin' enterprise apps; just a means to allow a remote user, with limited means, to create a useful web site. Heck, you could deploy the thing as a sort of bootstrapping affair -- give the (hosted) user Editor access to just that one database via HTTP alone, and let server-side agents verify and build the thing to spec. Hmmmmm.......

7:18 PMlink  
Damien said...

Your a idea of using DXL to build a web designer client is intriguing. I'm sure Ned is proud that its even possible, he created DXL.

5:42 PMlink  
Ed Brill said...

The lead article on the Lotus Developer Domain this week is about Domino blogging: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/lotus/library/article/blogging/

10:35 AMlink  
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